Gold Near $4,073. Copper Tight. This Drill Hit Came Just in Time.

Dual exposure to two surging metals, plus 17.91% CuEq over mineable width, and infrastructure on site - this is what juniors dream of. And the market is just starting to notice.

Did DeepSeek copy ChatGPT? Trump adviser thinks so

MATT O'BRIEN and KELVIN CHAN
January 29, 2025

Did the upstart Chinese tech company DeepSeek copy ChatGPT to make the artificial intelligence technology that shook Wall Street this week?

That's what ChatGPT maker OpenAI is suggesting, along with U.S. President Donald Trump's top AI adviser. Neither has disclosed specific evidence of intellectual property theft, but the comments could fuel a reexamination of some of the assumptions that led to a panic in the U.S. over DeepSeek's advancements.

"There's substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI's models," David Sacks, Trump's AI adviser, told Fox News on Tuesday. "And I don't think OpenAI is very happy about this."

DeepSeek and the hedge fund it grew out of, High-Flyer, didn't immediately respond to emailed questions Wednesday, the start of China's extended Lunar New Year holiday.

OpenAI said in a statement that China-based companies "are constantly trying to distill the models of leading U.S. AI companies" but didn't publicly call out DeepSeek specifically.

OpenAI's official terms of use ban the technique known as distillation that enables a new AI model to learn by repeatedly querying a bigger one that's already been trained. The company has been working with its business partner Microsoft to identify accounts attempting to distill its models and then banning those accounts and revoking their access. Microsoft declined to comment.

OpenAI said it will also work "closely with the U.S. government to best protect the most capable models from efforts by adversaries and competitors to take U.S. technology."

The San Francisco company has itself been accused of copyright theft in lawsuits from media organizations, book authors and others in cases that are still working through courts in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Even before DeepSeek news rattled markets Monday, many who were trying out the company's AI model noticed a tendency for it to declare that it was ChatGPT or refer to OpenAI's terms and policies.

"If you ask it what model are you, it would say, 'I'm ChatGPT,' and the most likely reason for that is that the training data for DeepSeek was harvested from millions of chat interactions with ChatGPT that were just fed directly into DeepSeek's training data," said Gregory Allen, a former U.S. Defense Department official who now directs the Wadhwani AI Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Such declarations are not necessarily an indication of IP theft -- chatbots are prone to fabricating information. But DeepSeek, despite describing its technology as "open-source," doesn't disclose the data it used to train its model.

"I think that there's a pretty obvious reason for that choice, which is that they harvested ChatGPT for training data," Allen said.

Much about DeepSeek has perplexed analysts poring through the startup's public research papers about its new model, R1, and its precursors.

Among the details that startled Wall Street was DeepSeek's assertion that the cost to train the flagship v3 model behind its AI assistant was only $5.6 million, a stunningly low number compared to the multiple billions of dollars spent to build ChatGPT and other popular chatbots.

The $5.6 million number only included actually training the chatbot, not the costs of earlier-stage research and experiments, the paper said. But the number -- and DeepSeek's relatively cheap prices for developers -- called into question the huge amounts of money and electricity pouring into AI development in the U.S.

DeepSeek was also working under constraints: U.S. export controls on the most powerful AI chips. It said it relied on a relatively low-performing AI chip from California chipmaker Nvidia that the U.S. hasn't banned for sale in China. But in 2022, a social media post from High-Flyer said it had amassed a cluster of 10,000 more powerful Nvidia chips that are now banned in China.

_____

The Associated Press and OpenAI have a licensing and technology agreement that allows OpenAI access to part of AP's text archives.

Continue Reading...

Popular

Elon's $25 Trillion Confession - Ad

Elon Musk: "Tesla will become a $25 trillion company." That would make Tesla 8x bigger than Apple today. How is that possible? He admits it's all thanks to this one AI breakthrough that will take AI out of our computer screens and manifest a 250x boom here in the real world.

Peter Thiel Once Explained Why Bitcoin Won't Go Up 'Dramatically' And How It's Set For A 'Volatile, Bumpy Ride' Thanks To BlackRock

Bitcoin's ongoing struggles have brought renewed attention to comments made last year by Palantir Technologies co-founder Peter Thiel, who predicted that the leading cryptocurrency was unlikely to see a dramatic surge

MacKenzie Scott Has Donated More Than $19 Billion, Yet Her Wealth Grows Faster

MacKenzie Scott, the billionaire philanthropist and ex-wife of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, has donated a staggering $19.25 billion since 2020.

This Is the Type of Drill Hole That Changes Everything - Ad

A 19.5 metre zone returned 6.93% CuEq with a core 6.3 metre interval at 17.91%. The structure is bigger, richer, and more gold-loaded than expected. Drilling is active, and majors are watching.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Goes Bargain Shopping, Discloses Buying These Two Stocks At 52-Week Lows

Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene disclosed some new stocks recently. Unlike past trades in 2024 and 2025, the latest disclosure is rather unique.

These are the 37 donors helping pay for Trump's $300 million White House ballroom

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says his $300 million White House ballroom will be paid for “100% by me and some friends of mine.”

Congress to Feature Trump on $100 Bill? - Ad

A shocking new plan was just introduced in Washington; to celebrate Trump's new "golden age" by placing him on the $100 bill. In the months ahead, this former Presidential Advisor predicts the government will release a massive multi-trillion-dollar asset which it has held back for more than a century.

Border Patrol is monitoring US drivers and detaining those with 'suspicious' travel patterns

The is monitoring millions of American drivers nationwide in a secretive program to identify and detain people whose travel patterns it deems suspicious, The Associated Press has found.

France threatens to block Shein over sale of childlike sex dolls ahead of Paris store opening

PARIS (AP) — French authorities have warned they may block access to after it emerged that the online fast fashion giant had been selling sex dolls with a childlike appearance.

Trump Signs Law to Launch Dollar 2.0 - Ad

Trump just signed law S.1582, unleashing the biggest money shift in 100+ years. For the first time since 1913, private firms - not the Fed - can mint a "Dollar 2.0." Treasury says it could drain $6.6T from banks and pay 10X current savings rates. Early investors in minting firms could see 40X returns by 2032.

Jim Cramer: Chipotle Is 'Too Expensive,' Buy This Plane Maker

On "Mad Money," Cramer discusses Henry Schein, Bloom Energy, Tyler Technologies, Boeing and Chipotle Mexican Grill.

America's Defense Future Starts Underground - Ad

A N. American metals project just caught the attention of Rio Tinto - a mining giant. With four projects in key regions, this firm is aligned with Washington's push to rebuild the defense-metal supply chain.

Coeur Mining's $7 Billion Deal For New Gold Creates $20 Billion Powerhouse

Coeur Mining Inc. (CDE) announced acquisition of New Gold Inc. (NGD) in all-stock deal valued at $7 billion.

Warren Buffett Opens Up About The Biggest Investing Blunders Of His Career — Here They Are

Over the decades, the "Oracle of Omaha" has shared candid reflections on his biggest blunders, from emotional decisions to missed opportunities, all of which provide timeless investing insights.

Metals... Not Missles... Is the New Arms Race - Ad

China and Russia control 70% of the world's critical minerals, giving them leverage over the West. One N. American discovery could help shift that balance by developing the metals essential for defense systems.

What Sparked PACS Group Stock Jumped Over 45% In After-Hours Trading?

PACS Group shares surged in after-hours trading following strong third -quarter results and the completion of financial restatements.

Obesity, diabetes treatments fuel Eli Lilly growth and spark bidding war

The market for obesity and diabetes treatments remains scorching hot, funneling billions in sales to Eli Lilly and fueling a bidding war over another drugmaker.

From Strong to Stunning: New Drill Hole Sets a New Bar - Ad

Earlier holes showed 2.4% and 2.7% CuEq. This new hit just delivered 6.93% over nearly 20 metres. That's a game-changer - and it comes with deep insider alignment and an active program.

OpenAI and Amazon sign $38B deal for AI computing power

SEATTLE (AP) — OpenAI and Amazon have signed a $38 billion deal that enables the ChatGPT maker to run its artificial intelligence systems on Amazon's cloud computing services.

The Market Just Crossed a Dangerous Line - Ad

The man who predicted the 2008 crash and 2020 says today's soaring markets are NOT a bubble - they're something far stranger and more dangerous. He says it's about to change everything you know about money.

Consumer Tech News (Oct 27-31): Nvidia Surpasses $5T Market Cap, Trump-Xi Meeting Concludes, Big Tech Report Earnings & More

Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and Alphabet beat Q3 estimates with revenue and earnings growth. Trump and Xi conclude high-stakes meeting with trade, soybean, and resource agreements, potentially impacting U.S.-China economic relations and global markets.

Bill Ackman's Hertz Stake Is Starting To Look Like His Next Chipotle Moment

Bill Ackman's investment in Hertz may be the next Chipotle moment as the rental-car company sees a surprise profit and a 40% stock surge.

"Tech Prophet" Who Predicted the iPhone Now Predicts... - Ad

George Gilder - who predicted the iPhone 17 years early and gave Reagan the first microchip - is making his boldest call yet. He says an American nanotech "super-convergence" could mint more millionaires than any event in recent memory. He's found 3 stocks set to benefit the most.

Some Social Security Recipients Won't Have To Wait Until 2026 For COLA Hike

Social Security and SSI recipients will receive a 2.8% cost-of-living adjustment in 2026, with SSI beneficiaries seeing the increase a day earlier due to a federal holiday.

Bitcoin's Crash Below $100,000 Isn't The End: Wall Street Vet Says: 'We Have To Get Through This'

For the first time since July, Bitcoin (CRYPTO: BTC) fell below $100,000 on Tuesday as the crypto sell-off saw $1.7 billion in liquidations in 24 hours.

Gold Near $4,073. Copper Tight. This Drill Hit Came Just in Time. - Ad

Dual exposure to two surging metals, plus 17.91% CuEq over mineable width, and infrastructure on site - this is what juniors dream of. And the market is just starting to notice.

NATO member Romania signs agreement with Germany’s Rheinmetall to build a gunpowder plant

BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) — NATO member Romania signed an agreement Monday with German defense company Rheinmetall to build a gunpowder factory in central Romania, as

Zohran Mamdani Was Crypto Bettors' Overwhelming Favorite For New York City Mayor At 100% Odds — And He Just Won

Zohran Mamdani won the high-stakes New York City mayoral race Tuesday,  a victory widely anticipated by cryptocurrency bettors, who had overwhelmingly backed the Democratic Socialist.

Elon's $25 Trillion Confession - Ad

Elon Musk: "Tesla will become a $25 trillion company." That would make Tesla 8x bigger than Apple today. How is that possible? He admits it's all thanks to this one AI breakthrough that will take AI out of our computer screens and manifest a 250x boom here in the real world.

Abu Dhabi hosts oil summit as OPEC+ halts production hikes planned for first quarter of 2026

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Abu Dhabi hosted a major oil summit Monday, hours after the OPEC+ cartel and its allies said it would halt further production increases planned in the first quarter of 2026 over concerns of too much supply in the market.

Japan's Toyota, hurt by President Trump's tariffs, reports a drop in profit

TOKYO (AP) — Toyota reported a 7% year-on-year drop in its profit for April-September on Wednesday, as President Donald Trump’s tariffs slammed Japanese automakers, but it raised its forecast for the full fiscal year.

This Is the Type of Drill Hole That Changes Everything - Ad

A 19.5 metre zone returned 6.93% CuEq with a core 6.3 metre interval at 17.91%. The structure is bigger, richer, and more gold-loaded than expected. Drilling is active, and majors are watching.

SharpLink Gaming (SBET) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

SharpLink Gaming reported third-quarter financial results on Thursday. The transcript from the earnings call has been provided below.

Congress to Feature Trump on $100 Bill? - Ad

A shocking new plan was just introduced in Washington; to celebrate Trump's new "golden age" by placing him on the $100 bill. In the months ahead, this former Presidential Advisor predicts the government will release a massive multi-trillion-dollar asset which it has held back for more than a century.

IREN Skyrockets After Sealing $9.7 Billion AI Cloud Deal With Microsoft

Pre-market trading sees IREN shares up after securing $9.7B cloud contract with Microsoft, partnering with Dell.

Trending Now

Information, charts or examples are for illustration and educational purposes only and not for individualized investment management This message contains commercial elements, such as advertising. We only send these offers to those who have opted in to our newsletter. Past performance is not indicative of future results. For these reasons we strongly suggest trading in a DEMO/Simulated account. The information provided by us is for educational and informational purposes only. We make no representations or warranties concerning the products, practices or procedures of any company or entity mentioned or recommended and have not determined if the statements and opinions of the advertiser are accurate, correct or truthful. If you use, act upon or make decisions in reliance on information contained or any external source linked within it, you do so at your own peril and agree to hold us, our officers, directors, shareholders, affiliates and agents without fault.

Copyright systemtrading.ca
Privacy Policy | Terms of Service